Posts by Kool Jo

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in limbo.

by Captain Blithering in

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yo homies.. .

ltr ftp (long time, first time etc.).

i don't really know where to start, but i guess you've all been here before so you'll know where i'm coming from.

One year anniversary on JWN & some updates (not so good news)

by Kool Jo in

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good day everyone....its been approximately one year since ive been on jwn, not as active as i want to, i guess i will be as time goes on.. its been an interesting year since been fully awaken about the lies behind the borg...thanks to this site, along with the many well put together blogs from cedars, marvin, jwfacts, randy & others, life has been much better for me.

Kool Jo

Good day everyone….it’s been approximately one year since I’ve been on JWN, not as active as I want to, I guess I will be as time goes on.

It’s been an interesting year since been fully awaken about the lies behind the BORG…thanks to this site, along with the many well put together blogs from Cedars, Marvin, JWFACTS, Randy & others, life has been much better for me. I no longer have to worry about being put to death at Armageddon or worry about those who were critical of me going to College or choosing a good job that allows me to travel.

Through my company, I’ve also done some voluntary activities to help those who are less fortunate. This is something that is very close to my heart! It really saddens me that the WTBS has the resources to be more helpful in the various communities across the earth, but refuse to.

I can’t thank ya’ll enough for your advice, encouragement & well wishes!

As you all know, my fade has been going very well…of course, over the past year, I’ve attended the Khall just a couple times when my parents come to stay over for the weekend or when I go back to my home congregation to visit “home”. Additionally, no FS for me, except for once or twice when I visited my dad for a couple days.

All was going well until a couple weeks ago, when I ran into a CO who I remember from when I was much younger…he served in my parents circuit about 12 years ago. Back then, I had my doubts, but went with the flow….to cut a long story short, this CO had an interest in me, he thought I’d become the next CO or move on to become a bethelite. He has always maintained contact with my parents and always asked for me. My parents told him which state I was in and which congregation I should be with, it just so happens that the city where I’m at now, hosted him and he was expecting to see me at the meetings and field service!!! When I ran into him, he asked if my publisher card is at the local congregation where I’m currently working, to which I responded “NO” and told him I want it to stay in my parents’ congregation. He’s also aware of the fact that I stepped down as an MS a few months ago.

He asked the local elders to “follow up” on me…I guess in hopes of me becoming an MS again. Under compulsion by my parents, I attended one of the meetings on a Sunday…of course…the love bombing and one of the elders said to me that he wants us to talk. This was the first time I’m seeing the new 16 page magazines… I went to the literature counter, took up a couple of them & realized how poor the quality is. The public talk almost made me puke…It was about how the GB loves the congregation, dis-fellowshipping is a loving provision from Jehovah and a bunch of other garbage!

Apparently, the CO told them that I once served as an MS. I told the elder that I won’t be here much longer and that my company is sending me to a country overseas. I also told the CO the same thing and that I actually love my job!

My company is planning to send me to one of their offices in another country in April, unfortunately, acquiring a work permit to go to this specific country is harder than expected, so there may be some delays.

I know that a “fade” must come to an end eventually, but how do you make that transition from fading to complete non-association with the cult, especially when you have family? I know I have to be honest with myself eventually, but my mum suffered severe depression some time ago, and from a young age told me that if I left the “truth”, she’d become very depressed. Also, my dad is one who worries quite easily…I also don’t want to be blamed for my parents having any mental/medical problems…I’m between a rock & a hard place!!!

Thanks for listening, just need some advice!

Peace

Kool Jo

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Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?

by Julia Orwell in

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i've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.

i never lied on my report.

sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.

Kool Jo

Been doing this for the last 10 months...it occurs more often than realized!

Kool Jo

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Whacky comments! What the craziest comment you've ever heard?

by toweragent in

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last week a sister in my new hall made the following comment,.

"a brother once told me that it is better to be wrong with the organization, than to be right and be on your own without the organization.".

wow.

Kool Jo

These two got me:

1. If your co-workers or schoolmate can't tell your different as a tru Christian, then you're perhaps under the influence of Satan.

2. Even if there was no Jehovah, no true religion, I'll be happy that I was a JW.

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Overcoming objections

by Kool Jo in

how do you overcome the following objections if you were to reason with a jw?.

1. jehovah uses imperfect people to accomplish his will.

in bible times, he used imperfect servants to accomplish great things.. 2. we must wait on jehovah for clarification on matters.. .

Kool Jo

How do you overcome the following objections if you were to reason with a JW?

1. Jehovah uses imperfect people to accomplish his will. In Bible times, he used imperfect servants to accomplish great things.

2. We must wait on Jehovah for clarification on matters.

These are two statements often made by JW's to justify remaining in the borg, even if they have a bit of doubt...so how do you reply when someone says either or both of the above?

Peace

Kool Jo

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Conversation with my JW co-worker!

by Kool Jo in

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good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.

Kool Jo

Hey guys:

Would you beleive that one evening after work as I was getting ready to go home, the JW coworker says she's going out for dinner & asked me if I wanted to go out with her?

I was in total shock!!! She went to dinner with a wordly guy!?!?!

After we ate, we spent another hour just talking about life in general...nothing about JWism came up while we were dining...she mentions she's planning to go back to college & I encouraged her to do so!

Oh we'll see what happens!

Peace

Kool Jo

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Your Saturday Time Puke

by Kool Jo in

so i'm sure some of you have seen this already...but read this crap that was sent to me this morning, while i was sleeping in.

it was sent to me by an uber dub in my former congregation....i think it's a chain message:.

if someone asks about your educational background, proclaim boldly that:.

Kool Jo

So I'm sure some of you have seen this already...but read this crap that was sent to me this morning, while I was sleeping in. It was sent to me by an uber dub in my former congregation....I think it's a chain message:

If someone asks about your educational background, proclaim boldly that:

Kingdom Hall is my college.

Full time service is my university.

Registration is my baptism.

Jehovah God is my councellor.

Jesus is my principal.

Holy Spirit is my tutor.

Angels are my classmates.

The Bible is my syllabus.

Temptations and persecutions are my exams.

Overcoming satan is my hobby.

Teaching others the truth is my assignment.

Receiving everlasting life is my degree.

Comments at the meetings and declaring the good news are my slogans to college.

Make others smile by forwarding this to other witnesses u kno....

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Conversation with my JW co-worker!

by Kool Jo in

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good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.

Kool Jo

So my Non JW Coworker says she'll act as my mouthpeice in questioning the JW Coworker! I haven't indicated to my Non JW Coworker that I was involved with the religion!

So what would be top 10 hitting points you'd use to try and awaken someone who says they're opened for discussion?

Peace

Kool Jo

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Conversation with my JW co-worker!

by Kool Jo in

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good day...so this is the conversation i had with a co-worker of mine i mentioned in an earlier thread...shes a jw and doesnt know that i was associated with the jws before and that im a fader.

Kool Jo

Hello all...nothing much to update on, but in the absence of my JW co-worker, some of the other folks and I were on some down-time at work. One of my co-workers was on Facebook and browsing the FB page of the JW co-worker. There were lots of pics of her at conventions, Khall ect...the conversation went like this:

Kool Jo: Hey guys, how is everyone?

Non JW Coworker 1: Doing great, I had a restful weekend!

Non JW Coworker 2: All is well here, just checking out Facebook. Are you on Facebook Kool Jo?

Kool Jo: No, just email, skype or my phone.

Non JW Coworker 2: Anyways, this is "JW Coworker" who is the clerk.

Kool Jo: Oh ok cool.

Non JW Coworker 2: She's in a weird religion.

Non JW Coworker 1: Kool Jo, did you know that in their religion, if someone does something wrong they can't speak to each other? If they are going out they have to use different vehicles?

Kool Jo: Oh really? (Pretending like I never knew anything about it)

Non JW Coworker 1: I couldn't be in that religion!

Non JW Coworker 2: They can't accept blood either if you have a loved one in the hospital.

Kool Jo: That's so sad! Why not ask her why the refusal of blood but it's ok to accept blood fractions?

Non JW Coworker 1: Do you know about her religion Kool Jo?

Kool Jo: I know about various religions. (At this point JW coworker walks in for work, looking all tired after the weekend).

JW Coworker: Hello everyone, how was the weekend?

Kool Jo: It was restful, what about yours?

JW Coworker: Oh it was busy, I had meetings, then afterwards I do what is known as Bible studies, so I was away from home for a few hours...I really love talking to people about the Bible!

Non JW Coworker 2: You sound like you're exhausted!

JW Coworker: Yes, but it's all for a good cause! The upcoming weekend will be a very special one for me. We're having our Zone Overseer Visit and would like to invite all 3 of you on Sunday morning at 10:50AM.

Non JW Coworker 1: I won't be there to be honest with you...I'm quite happy with my church!

Non JW Coworker 2: I do read your literature at times, but I won't attend.

Kool Jo: Oh thanks for the invite, but I won't be there either.

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At this point everyone walks away to resume their duties.

So I pulled aside Non JW Coworker 2 (she's close to the JW Coworker) and asked her to question JW Coworker about her beleifs...

Non JW Coworker 2: Are you interested in her religion Kool Jo?

Kool Jo: No, but since you're close to JW Coworker, can you ask her some questions, but don't let her know they're from me!

Non JW Coworker 2: That's fine Kool Jo, what would you like me to ask her?

Kool Jo: Ask her if someone was able to show her that there is something wrong with her faith or religion, if she'd be willing to change or research?

Non JW Coworker 2: What kind of question is that?

Kool Jo: Just ask her and see what she says and inform me later.

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Later in the evening, Non JW Coworker pulled me over and stated she asked her the question:

Kool Jo: So what did you find out?

Non JW coworker: I asked JW Coworker and she says there is no truth other than the JW's, but if someone has a valid point, she'll research it. She says she's an open person!

Kool Jo: Oh that's interesting....anyways thanks for your help, I may need your help in the future again!

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Ok guys...so this occurred a couple hours ago...

I don't think it may work out how I want to, so I'm going to back down. The Khall she attends and was inviting me to has a very popular COBE...who I knew from childhood...he's popular! So she says she's open...how would you guys handle it? I wish I had another apostate at my job!!!

Peace

Kool Jo

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I finally told my parents

by nolongerconfused in

so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.

my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.

they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.

Kool Jo

This is fantistic news!!! I'm also of the opinion that there are many more persons out there who know TTATT, but are too fearful to step out!

Peace

Kool Jo